May

28

getting out of debt Amy’s way

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You never know when you’re going to have an interesting conversation.

Last weekend I was staying with some friends by the seaside, and whilst we were out I ended up chatting to one of the group, Amy, about my house - which I bought last year. She stated that she was rubbish with money, to the extent that a few years ago, she’d been made bankrupt.

The details of the story are that she ran up £25k of credit card debt in her very early twenties, whilst earning a salary of something like £15k. After talking to a friend who’d been through bankruptcy she decided it was the best option for her, went to court and was made bankrupt. She was put on a payment plan of £100 per month for three years - this was the spare money that she had after basic expenses and could afford to repay to her creditors.

I admired her frankness, although I was then stuck with what to say. I told the truth, which is that I think there is nothing wrong with being made bankrupt - for businesses it’s a cost of providing credit which they should be allowing for. She said that although she’s now eligible for credit she no longer takes it up, and whilst she’s still perpetually skint (not a well-paid job, living in an expensive area), she’s debt-free.

I don’t know whether I conveyed my admiration well enough. I made (for me) the mistake of saying “it’s ok if you don’t do it every year”. I know that she’s right. Bankruptcy isn’t for everyone, but for some people it’s the best way to relieve their debts. It would have been for her as she couldn’t have even payed the interest on £25k, and she had little immediate prospect of a better paid job. Once bankruptcy has been discharged, you can carry on your successful life, hopefully a little wiser for the experience.

If I knew someone in real life who was facing massive debt I’d probably try to put them in touch with her. There’s nothing like hearing personal experience to try to reassure them that there is life after crippling debt, and that bankruptcy isn’t an insurmountable obstacle in the quest for a happy, fulfilled, and eventually rich life.

Apr

18

supercharging the debt snowball

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supercharged

Yesterday, when I explained about Dave Ramsey’s debt snowball, I said that the biggest drawback is that you end up paying more by paying off your debts in order from smallest to largest, than you would if you paid them off in order of highest interest to lowest interest.

Now, unlike Dave Ramsey, who is hot on psychology, arguably the biggest finance guru in the UK, Martin Lewis - the Money Saving Expert, is all about the maths. If he made over your finances, he’d never have you paying off your debts smallest to largest, instead he’s pick the more rational choice to pay them off highest to lowest interest rates. Funnily enough, I’m pretty sure that Martin has never had a debt problem.

What if you could make it so that the smallest debt also had the highest interest, and the largest debt also had the lowest interest?

Then it hit me, that’s the outcome you’re aiming for when you use Money Saving Expert’s credit card shuffle. You can have all the psychological advantages of the Dave Ramsey method, whilst still getting the financial rewards of paying off higher interest debts before lower interest ones. And it doesn’t mean that you take on any more credit.

The time to do this is once, at the beginning when you’re setting up your debt snowball. (If you’ve already set it up, you might want to revisit it to see if you can save money with this technique.) You’ll need a list of all your debts together with total amount of each debt, the interest rate and the credit limit.

the credit card shuffle

Mostly, this works better with credit cards and overdrafts than it does with other loans - you need to check the terms of your loan to see if it will be worthwhile.

step 1: ask them to lower their interest rates

This is easy. All you need to do is call up each credit card company and ask them to lower the rate. They might just do so. If they do, make a note of the new rate.

step 2: find out about special deals

Whilst you’re on the phone to the credit card company trying to get your interest rate lowered, ask them if they have any special balance transfer offers for new customers - if there are, write those down as well.

step 3: the shuffle

This is the more complicated step. The idea is that you move your debt from the higher interest cards (or overdraft) to the lower interest cards.

Suppose you have 3 credit cards and an overdraft:

  1. Visa £1k balance, £3k limit, @ 6.9%
  2. Amex £2k balance, £4k limit @ 12.5%
  3. Overdraft £2.5k, £2.5k limit @ 13%
  4. Mastercard £4k balance, £5k limit @ 17.9%, (lifetime balance transfer deal @ 9%)

Here, we want to get as much debt as possible onto the Visa, then the new balance transfer from Mastercard, then the Amex, then the overdraft then finally, the old rate on Mastercard.

Firstly lets start by moving the most expensive debt onto the least expensive card.

  • transfer £2k from the Mastercard to the Visa

The Visa is now full up, but we still have £2k on the Mastercard. We can’t put this on the new offer, but we can put this on the Amex.

  • transfer £2k from the Mastercard to the Amex

At this point we have no debt on the Mastercard, and the Amex is full. The final steps in the shuffle are to use the special balance transfer offer transfer.

  • transfer £2.5k from the overdraft to the Mastercard (new balance transfer rate)
  • transfer £2.5k from the Amex to the Mastercard (new balance transfer rate)

After the shuffle we are left with:

  1. Visa £3k balance, £3k limit, @ 6.9%
  2. Mastercard £5k balance, £5k limit @ 9%
  3. Amex £1.5k balance, £4k limit @ 12.5%
  4. Overdraft £0k

The smallest balance has the highest interest rate, and the larger balances have lower interest rates. Everyone’s a winner (except the credit card companies).

Now, if you think that it sounds too complicated, on the Money Saving Expert site you can download a credit card shuffle worksheet to help you. Also, you only have to do this once, when you set up the snowball. Finally, even doing a little bit of a shuffle will save you money in the long run, and get you out of debt more quickly.

Hot or Not? Let me know what you think in the comments.

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Apr

17

the debt snowball

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big snowball

Heard of Dave Ramsey’s debt snowball? No? Well, let me explain it to you.

The idea is that you take all your non-mortgage debts (credit cards, car loans, personal loans, secured loans, etc.,) work out all the balances on them, and the minimum payments. Write them down in order of the smallest balance to the largest balance, and add up all the minimum payments.

Then, slash costs wherever possible to get an amount of money that you can afford to put each month towards paying off your debts that is larger than the total of all your minimum payments.

Every month pay the minimum on each debt, and put the extra towards the smallest debt.

Once the smallest debt is cleared, put all the money that you were paying towards that smallest debt, and use it to pay off the next smallest debt. Repeat until all your debt is gone.

As you pay off each debt, the amount of money over the minimum that you can put towards debt repayment snowballs - hence why it’s known as the debt snowball.

advantages

The biggest advantage of this is psychological. Any plan for getting out of debt where you cut costs and put the excess towards your debts will work if you stick to it. The key words there are stick to it.

The magic of the Dave Ramsey version is that if you tackle the smallest debt first, you’ll pay that off quite quickly which will give you the psychological boost you need to believe that it will work, and so stick to it. If you stick to it, you will get out of debt - as ably demonstrated by a reader of plonkee money and my fellow bloggers Ana @ debt-FREE revolution, NCN @ no credit needed and JD @ get rich slowly.

drawbacks

No great plan is without its downsides and Dave Ramsey’s debt snowball is no exception.

Paying off your debts in order of the smallest to largest without considering the interest rate on each loan means that you’re pretty likely to pay back more than you would if you paid then in the order of highest interest to lowest interest, which would be the most mathematically savvy route.

Now, I understand that actually paying off your debt is more important than trying to do it as cheaply as possible and giving up because the task seems insurmountable. But, it’s also a good idea to try and get out of debt as quickly as possible, and the less you’re going to pay the less time it will take.

a brainwave

Breaking things down into bite-size pieces and getting in some quick wins is a good idea.

What if you not only got the psychological boost, but also used some cunning thinking and a little bit of time to supercharge the debt snowball?

Come back tomorrow, and I’ll explain the idea :) .

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