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Response to ‘What Would Happen If All Christians Tithed/Gave More?’

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Free Money Finance posed the question ‘What Would Happen If All Christians Tithed/Gave More?’ as part of his regular (and excellent) Sunday slot on Money and the Bible. You should really read the post, but I’ll summarise by saying that FMF was commenting on someone else who had worked out how much their church gave as a proportion of the local average income. Unsurprisingly it was less than 10%. The thrust of FMF’s argument is that the world could or would be a better place if Christians gave more.

Usually in this series, the comments, are mainly from other believers (in the sense that if I had to guess I’d say the majority are ‘born again’). This post was unusual because it generated comments from non-believers, most of whom did not appear to feel that if Christians gave more it would have the effect that suggested - to the seeming bewilderment of some of the Christian commenters.

I too feel that if all Christians tithed (that is donated 10% of their income to their church) it wouldn’t have as much impact as it could on the problems of the world. And thats because there are essentially two types of worthwhile donating which I’ll call community giving and charitable giving. By community giving, I mean the donation of money that supports your own community - something that you could or would directly gain benefit from. Things like donating to the local art museum, school fundraising and political parties. Churches have to do a lot of this because they don’t often earn money. Outside of state-supported churches, most religious organisations rely on donations to pay for the upkeep of their buildings, the contstruction of new facilities and to pay their ministers and other professional staff. If they didn’t use monetary donations, they would still need donations in kind.

Charitable giving, on the other hand, I define as a donation of money that supports someone or something else without direct benefit to yourself. Things like donating money to prevent hunger in regions of famine, the local soup kitchen, or even saving the dolphins. This type of donation needs to be increased (both personally and nationally) to try to solve the problems of poverty and environmental damage. Churches collectively do this with some of their money, for example by running soup kitchens or supporting charitable work in the third world. Much more of it is done by religious and non-religious people outside of organised structures though. For example, lots of the money that comes through Cafod (the Catholic Agency for Overseas Development) doesn’t come from the collection box but from individual donations.

The third main use that churches have for money is to proselytise. Almost all Christian denominations fund missionary work (as do other religions). As an atheist I think that at best this money is at wasted (especially if they come and knock on my door) and at worst (as happened in the 19th century) it is used for cultural genocide.

I think there is a misconception as to what churches (and other religious organisations) actually do and would like to do with the money they collect from their members. I imagine that many religious people feel that churches spend a higher proportion of their money on charitable work than they actually do and I reckon many people who don’t like organised religions feels that if churches received more money a large proportion of it would be spent on community work - building themselves better facilities and so on - and on missionary work.

In reality, religious organisations are expensive to run, old churches are often difficult to heat, new ones cost money to build, salaries only increase and so a lot of money is currently spent within their own religious community. On the other hand, religious groups are largely composed of thoughtful compassionate people who would like to do more charitable work.

On the whole if Christians all gave more, I think that then more money would be spent on charitable work and that the proportion of church money spent on charitable work would increase. This would be good and would probably counterbalance the associated likely increase in missionary work. Society at large should encourage more giving from Christians, just as it should encourage more giving from atheists, Moslems, Buddhists, Wiccans, etc, etc. FMF himself essentially said in his response to the commenters that anyone giving more is a good thing and I wholeheartedly agree.

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2 comments for “Response to ‘What Would Happen If All Christians Tithed/Gave More?’”

  1. In my Anglican church each member has a box of envelopes for the year. The white envelopes are for your weekly offering. This money goes mainly to keep the church running, although some is given to a homeless shelter and so on. There are also blue envelopes once a month. They are for the Primate’s World Relief and Development Fund, which supports and development work of course (NOT evangelism). In our church bulletin we get regular updates on various projects the PWRDF supports. So this envelope scheme encourages us to support not only the ongoing activities of our church (what you called community giving) but also to meet human needs in the world (what you called charitable giving).

    Posted by Canadian | July 5, 2007, 8:47 pm
  2. That sounds like a good idea.

    I should probably make it clear that I don’t think that community giving is a bad thing at all, its just not going to make things better (or if it does its gonna be very, very slow). If you benefit from something worthwhile, then it is good to contribute towards its future.

    Posted by plonkee | July 6, 2007, 10:31 am

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